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From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: Is this newsgroup for mac users of kermit as well?
Date: 27 Jan 1995 14:18:29 GMT
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In article <3g5sje$fl@toto.plymouth.edu>,
Cynthia Campbell <cyncam@toto.plymouth.edu> wrote:
>HI. I left a message some time ago but later realized that kermit is
>mostly not used by macs so I'd appreciate it if someone could leave a
>message as to whether this news group is geared to non-mac users?
>
It doesn't have to be. There is a Macintosh version of Kermit and
everybody is free to use it and discuss it, but it's only fair to warn
you that it is not supported as well as MS-DOS Kermit, C-Kermit, or
IBM Mainframe Kermit, due to lack of Macintosh programmers available
to work on the project.
Mac Kermit was originally written here at Columbia University in the
days when we still had a staff of professional programmers for Kermit
software development. Those days are long gone, and since then we
have relied on a succession of volunteer programmers elsewhere. The
last of these succumbed to the exigencies of Real Life some years
ago, and since then the Macintosh-specific aspects of Mac Kermit have
remained relatively static, which would not be such a bad thing if
it were not for the fact that Macintosh hardware and OSs have been
changing out from under it at a rapid pace. For example, Mac Kermit
suddenly lost its ability to download (receive) files when Mac OS 7.1
was released, because a particular system call started working
differently (I fixed this problem myself, but that should not be taken
as an indication that I know anything about Macintosh programming!).
The current version of Mac Kermit is 0.991(190), based on C-Kermit
5A(190). It has some problems and limitations, which are listed in the
accompanying "beware" file, but it is quite usable for many purposes and
has a good VT320 emulator.
Mac Kermit files, ftp from kermit.columbia.edu in text mode from the
kermit/f directory:
ckm190.hqx -- current prerelease of Mac Kermit in BinHex 4.0 format
ckmker.doc -- user documentation for 0.9(40), the previous release (1988)
ckmker.ps -- PostScript version of user documentation for 0.9(40)
ckmker.bwr -- Notes about the current prerelease, FAQ's, etc
ckmker.fon -- Notes about the new Mac Kermit terminal emulation font
and in the kermit/charsets directory:
maclatin.* -- The new Mac Kermit font itself
Read the ckmker.bwr ("beware") file for further details.
Macintosh programmers with an MPW C 3.2 (or later) development system are
more than welcome to pitch in. Nothing would please me more than to be
able to bring Mac Kermit back to life.
- Frank